Still, when you are demanding your best efforts on each and every shot, it takes a toll on you, so that is one reason the shooting was conducted over the course of several days. As these weight savings came from the muzzle end of things, the .308 version is much faster to shoulder and doesnt fatigue the support arm with offhand shooting. If you are looking for a good 308 rifle for long-range shooting, there are many great options to choose from. With the same brake, and a bit more weight, shooting a lighter recoiling cartridge, the 6.5 is still the pussycat of the two. You dont need a $2,500 scope to accomplish this task. http://www.tcsa.org Tri-Cities Shootiing Association. Josh Wayner even did a lot of the heavy lifting for me to demonstrate that if nothing else, shorter barrels on a .308 arent inherently less accurate. Had my 308 out last weekend doing a barrel break in. As far as the loose safety lever, Swap it for an ambidextrous from CMMG and its not an issue any more. In the review above, you claim to have put a brake on this rifle but you didnt specify whether the groups were shot with or without the brake, or whether you tested for any effect of the brake on group size. They fixed it, told me what parts they replaced, but wouldnt take the time to tell me what the problem was, even when I called service dept. A shorter sight radius magnifies small sighting errors. I chalk this performance gap up to two distinct weaknesses. The fact that they also will feed from the same magazine is a major bonus. A gun that handles well in a caliber that translates to dead right there terminal ballistics is a friend of mine. OK, I need to get up on my hind legs here and issue forth a rant. Have yet to see a review on the 308 or 6.5 version of this gun where someone took the time (and money) to try and find a handload that shot 1/2MOA or better in either. Ms. Weiss appears to me to have been born a girl (if Ms. KJW would argue with this, I will stand corrected), so I think we can exclude the possibility that shes a trans female who was originally endowed with the upper body strength of a male. Even with slightly gusty conditions, a shooter has to do a bit more work to keep a .308 inside the same circle as a comparably built 6.5 Creedmoor. Still, to this day, Ruger is no slouch when it comes to accurate hunting rifles. BTW, cold bore it shot dead center and 1.5 high with the R700 setup at 100 yards. Match Kings. Naturally, this is all speculative on my part, but I think theres work to be done to turn that particular rifle into a shooter. The gun that Ruger made is very close to the guns I saw on the line at this years Bushnell Brawl. My 06 works just fine. A lot has to do with the ammunition, and all guns have their druthers some shoot great with green/yellow box hunting ammo, and some dont. I believe the Ruger Precision Rifle is capable of even better accuracy than I achieved. Its like buying a safari rifle and faulting it because it has too much recoil to shoot prairie dogs all day. Because of the barrel twist, I did not try anything lighter. Notify Me When Available. Think theyd ever release a 20 SR762 in a configuration like this? Couldnt close the bolt all the way so I couldnt fold stock and remove bolt to trouble shoot it. You dont want a short, handy barrel when youre trying to connect at 1000 yards. These new ELD bullets have MUCH better physical characteristics than the 168 gr. Its all over the place at that range. You whippersnappers, who still have good, capable vision, should be using iron sights, but Im going to guess that you slapped a scope (the details of which you didnt specify in the review) onto this rifle. Glad that Pat included a bit of talk about shooting down people at long range. Youll also need to go get at least two magazines, and at the time this published, AICS mags were running $80/per. He loves that gun and it shoots regular 1 MOA groups he says. , My .308 Ruger Precision Rifle w/Vortex PST optics shoots 2.5 MOA with168 Berger VLD. I was slightly disappointed in the groups but I was a bit rushed and it was cold/windy with well over 15 mph gusts. Curious how that works out. Was hoping to hear good things about this rifle as it has so many features I like, but it looks as though a heavy barreled Savage or Weatherby will out shine what is otherwise an impressive rifle. Still, the set-up was fairly good although I really needed a bipod on the RPR and I needed to go prone, to get the very best accuracy out of this rifle. Yet a scope would have to be mounted. I havent used the heaviest new bullets that could be considered Creedmoor; bullets, bullets over 142 grains, but have been reloading long enough to say stick with 140-142 grain bullets, SMK, Amax, Accubond etc, and RL22. I can hardly believe that at 56 Im finally going to break down and get a .308.. Dont ask me why. We live in a land of plenty. He has been writing for The Truth About Guns for four years and specializes in hunting, the outdoors, gun, and gear reviews. Like I told the owner of 2 of these guns who bought them for rentals at his range, he said they wouldnt shoot MOA, I said call Ruger, raise hell and send them back. The RPR is built of similar parts with a much higher degree of final finish. Length of Pull: 12" - 15.50". Rugers Precision Rifle Is a Beast at Long-Distance Shooting 6 Best Scopes for 308 Ruger Precision Rifle - Outdoor Moran The 168-gr Match Hollow Point load was giving me 3-shot groups close to 3/4-inches and I had to check several times, to make sure all three rounds were hitting the target they were that close often just one ragged hole. I get the same accuracy with either of my Armalite AR10s. I also know competitive shooters still use long barrels, and the real tack driver rifles always still seem to have long barrels. An aircraft strobe isnt that bright. I am not personally familiar with the 308s as far as what they are capable of, but Ive never heard of anyone unable to get them to shoot easily under 1 MOA average with around .5 bests. ? My only complaint is with the magazine/magazine well. The buttstock was really the only thing that held the gun back from being what it theoretically could have been. Its awesome they use standard mags but they are too short to handloads the bullets to an O.A.L. Getting a scope thats able to match your rifles shooting ability is your key to success. I had a RPR in 308 and did not like it. I gave it four stars only because I couldnt give it 4.8. Also, I think I read vs dreamed that these guns use AR bbls and bbl nuts/bbl extsn to mount the bbls. and Im OK, 900 yds. Weight is your friend with target rifles. The Swedish Mausers have unfortunately gone up in price, and they are not accurized, but some do surprisingly very well in military stocks. So much for long range shooting. Maximum effective range is 1000 yards. Jeff Quinn over at Gunblast described the Creedmore barrel as about 7/8 inch at the muzzle. WebModel Number: 18028 Caliber: 308 Win StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height FinishType III Black Hard-Coat Anodized Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer-Forged, 5R Rifling Thread Pattern5/8"-24 Twist1:10" RH Grooves5 Weight9.8 lb. The Creedmoor is a good deer rifle, the Ought Six is for everything else. In the meantime, I decided to get another gun in case this one doesnt work out. I no longer have any 6.5 Swedes, but an old man can dream. Every single part of this gun is modular from the stock all the way to the barrel. Thats only $0.10/day for some of the finest Survival/Prepping content around! The .308 version ships with a very handy 20-inch barrel tipped off with the Ruger Hybrid Muzzle Brake. Any high-powered rifle, that is commonly used in deer hunting, can work as a sniper rifle just takes some training and the use of the right ammo and you can become a sniper. After a short while it was like you said, what recoil? Nuff said! My SR762 is surprisingly a bit more accurate than this rifle with 168 grain match ammo. The other weakness, and the one that no gun can really overcome is that the 6.5 just bucks the wind better. In 6.5 Creedmoor, follow up shots will be even quicker as the recoil is very mild, You should be able to see the hit and adjust and be ready to fire again. Capacity10 Height7.30" Overall Length39.25" - 42.75" Length of Pull12" - 15.50" Folded Length31.60" Not sure where you are getting your factory ammo if its the same price at 6.5. It comes After a lot of shooting, I could probably produce groups as small as the 168-gr load, with the slightly heavier load in all honesty, I think in the end, you could really call it a tie between the rounds. Gun Review: Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 WIN - The Ive tested all sorts of handloads and factory loads. Ruger Precision Rifle For my part, I am amazed on the number of growed -up men who reluctantly approach my 03 Springfield like it was a Safari rifle. This confuses people, until I explain what constitutes a so-called sniper rifle or counter-sniper rifle.. I havent read prose like that since Ruark, and I miss it greatly. Firelapping will require that you load up the abrasive bullets with starting loads for the .308, and follow the instructions. Jima and Texas Prepper stole my thunder muzzle brakes SUCK. Thanks for the laughit was needed! Ive owned more than a few bolt-action hunting rifles, in various calibers, that could keep my three round groups right at an inch at 100 yards. Im still trying to get decent accuracy from it. WebRuger M77-GS 308 Gunsite Scout Rifle with Threaded Barrel. On the other hand, a shot or two in the vicinity of someone on your property will more than likely send them running away. You can read it all on the Ruger web site. The fact that youre seeing the barrel snag bits of the patch on the way down the bore is not good. That shouldnt be a surprise at all since theyre functionally the exact same rifle from the chamber backwards. Hopefully is it just as reliable. Backing way up to the start of this whole process, we have the issue of how the barrels were treated on break-in. Beginners can buy one of these and do the range time they need to gain some measure of proficiency while shooting out the factory barrel. And, Ive heard this asked many, many times do you have any sniper rifles? and when that question is asked of me, Ill point to all the long guns on the racks. I shot a similar Remington 700 SPS for a scope review and I found it to be a tack driver. Item Number: 22662. If you love to wear polyester fabric jackets? If it can fill next year's elk tags and provide entertainment out to 500-800yrds(which in 60+ years I've never done) I'll be content. However it could be that you might already have an Ought Six that is scoped. I still dont understand why this is better/worth ~$300 more than a ~$900 DPMS AR-10 that can shoot ~1 moa. The 175 grain Match Hollow Point load was hot on the heels of the lighter bullet, and gave me groups just above of an inch consistently. gun. Folded length is 31.60-inches and it is easy to fold the stock closed. If you need a muzzle brake on a .308, youre in the wrong hobby. Maybe this one is just a dud? Best 5 shot group rapid fire was. Not sure what the tells you but getting sighted in was 2 shots and I was in business. Is there anything inherent with .308 that makes it more difficult to lay down tight groups? Second, the Creedmore is just as powerful as the harder recoiling .308 downrange due to its higher BC. If a 308 wont shoot those to sub MOA, there is something bad wrong and should go back to the mfr. It reminds me of the feminization of the pickup truck; carpets and power windows, air conditioning and most wont see anything dirty or scratchy in the bed. Features QD sling-attachment points, a bottom Picatinny rail (for monopods) and soft rubber buttpad, Bolt: Three-lug bolt with 70 throw and dual cocking cams, Finish: Type III Black Hard-Coat Anodized, Barrel: Medium contour, Cold-hammer forged from 4140 chrome-moly steel, 5R rifling. Long barrels are fine if they come with a corresponding increase in girth. The one thing I didnt care for was the use of so much polymer/plastic on them. Hopefully Ill now be able to compete with the rest of the long range shooters at our club. That should not be happening.. It might be the Swedish steel, or because the bullet as a long bearing surface. I would love to own a GA Precision or Surgeon rifle someday but this will have to do for now. All of the minor gripes I had about the buttstock on the 6.5 rear their ugly head on the .308. Ruger Precision Rifle Features: In-line recoil path manages recoil directly from the rear of Surprised I didnt get any flyers. Apparently, that was back when men still made noises of large hardened steel bearings bouncing off each other whilst they walked to the firing line. I expect sub MOA accuracy because my Ruger SR762 and SIG716(both 16) shoot that with M80 and .5MOA with Nosler hunting loads that I havent totally dialed in to perfection yet. But if youve got an .06, dont loose it, cause youve got more gun. After I started reloading and found the magic round, it averaged for the next 2000 rounds (before I burned it out) a .34 MOA all targets good bad and ugly between 100 to 800 yards. Its not a .30-06 or a Magnum, for one. range.. Having just purchased this RPR in .308WIN I find all these comments quite depressing. They are considerably longer than the SMKs more like a Creedmore bullet. WebRuger Precision Rifle Bolt 308 Winchester/7.62 NATO 20" 10+1/15+1 Precision Adjustable Synthetic Black Stock Black Hard Coat Anodized Barrel Length Range: 20.00" to Review: Ruger Precision Rifle | An Official Journal Of The NRA You are right, brakes suck. Take it from a Canadian. A cubicle-dwelling technology sales professional by day, he is an avid starter of projects, purchaser of speciality tools, and aspiring chef outside the office. The rifle was very solid (save the safety), smooth and very comfortable to shoot ergonomically even with the too low rings. here in Canada. I have since re-barreled it(26LRI) and can only get it down to a .42 MOA with an average of about .6. Soin short Ruger will make a killing selling this silly looking thing that shoots about as good as a $400 pawn shop deer rifle. And because it is a box fed semi-auto in AR guise, it could be brutally efficient in the field. Damn kids. My .308 RPR turned in a .443 with Federal Gold 168 gr. BTW, we didnt know we couldnt hit the steel with the old .308 round because the hot .264s (6.5CM, .260 Rem, etc) hadnt been invented yet. Ruger Precision Rifle .308 Win. 18028 - Bolt Action Rifles at I gave the 6.5 a four-star rating that was much more like a 4.8. Getting a barrel so hot that you cant touch it with your bare hand is how you start eroding the throat. 100 yard 3 group @ .625, 200 yard 5 group @ 1.3 and 300 yard 10 group (in 56 seconds) @ 2.8. I wanted to make sure I was giving it my best effort. I got a Remington 700 LTR, which also has a 20 barrel, but Im guessing it will probably be a better 800 yrd. I dont do much reloading these days, because I simply dont have the time. Another a savage trophy hunter in 308, scoped with a Nikon 39. Core-Lokts. The truck was a quarter mile walk, so one of us dug a couple of boxes of Czech 7.62 ball (144 gr) ammo out of a pack. The Ruger SFAR (Small Frame Autoloading Rifle) cracked the code on producing an AR-10 that's as light as an AR-15. Trigger: Ruger Marksman Adjustable trigger, pull weight of 2.25 to 5 pounds; bolt disassembly tool is stored in the bolt shroud. With in 5 shots I was zeroed ( out of the box ). I will be interested to see what results are obtained with decent barrels. Every big gun magazine is copying his experiments!
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